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biqua Diamond Bollocks

Joined: 12 Jun 2007 Posts: 575
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Posted: Thu Oct 16, 2008 8:48 pm Post subject: Tilt-shifting |
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I'll start with a disclaimer - not everything here is rail related, but it is a common subject of the technique, and I thought it fitted better here than in the bar ... if 'Dawg and co disagree feel free to move it.
I'm sure many of you have seen the photo of Southern Cross Station in Melbourne that looks like a model thanks to a technique called tilt-shift, but for those that haven't I suggest you have a look here.
Some more examples and another how-to can be found here.
Well, a workmate today showed me some tilt-shifted video - I seriously recommend a look at this, and the other videos from the same guy - http://www.vimeo.com/1789964
Regrettably I don't think any of my archive of photos are of a suitable nature to tilt-shift, but has anyone here given it a try (either video or still)? I must go out and get some specifically to experiment. _________________ http://biqua.fotopic.net/
Little one, we love you though we never met you. Rest peacefully.
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biqua Diamond Bollocks

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Posted: Thu Oct 16, 2008 9:28 pm Post subject: |
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I found a couple to try - I think the second one came out best:
Mungo Scott
Cook's River
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Little one, we love you though we never met you. Rest peacefully.
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AusInExile We don't need no stinkin' badgers

Joined: 16 Jun 2007 Posts: 222 Location: In my own little virtual world, and we have COOKIES!!!
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Posted: Thu Oct 16, 2008 11:06 pm Post subject: |
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| Looks interesting mate, I'll have to give it a go and post the results when my copy of CS4 comes in the mail in a week or two. I have one or two shots that might go quite well for this topic.
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TheLoadedDog Site Admin

Joined: 11 Jun 2007 Posts: 2544 Location: Belmore, NSW
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Posted: Thu Oct 16, 2008 11:12 pm Post subject: |
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Can somebody explain in simple terms for a complete idiot non-photographer what tilt shifting is, but more importantly, why it makes everything look like a model layout? _________________ The idiot who, in railway carriages,
Scribbles on window-panes,
We only suffer
To ride on a buffer
In Parliamentary trains
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biqua Diamond Bollocks

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Posted: Fri Oct 17, 2008 6:25 am Post subject: |
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From what I can gather, there's two main elements:
- photoing something the size of a model is hard as it tends to only focus on one small area, where photoing a normal scene will have most in focus - blurring most the photo tricks the mind into thinking everything is smaller than it is
- as much as us modellers try and make things look realistic, the colours never look dead on (even if it was from the same tin) as colour doesn't always scale well - adjusting the colour slightly mimics this effect
Looking at my above attempts again this morning I don't think the Mungo shot worked at all - the building on a model would be more in focus, and the sky isn't enough to get the effect of the blur on its own, as clouds can look blurry anyway. _________________ http://biqua.fotopic.net/
Little one, we love you though we never met you. Rest peacefully.
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Cobraking/42101 Fuckwit Crusher

Joined: 28 Jul 2007 Posts: 693
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Posted: Fri Oct 17, 2008 11:42 am Post subject: |
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Biqua fantastic work with the shot from cooks river mate it does indeed look like a super detailed model train set....way cool.
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Petey3801
Joined: 04 Oct 2007 Posts: 25 Location: Brisbane
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Posted: Fri Oct 17, 2008 5:31 pm Post subject: |
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Hmmm, not sure whether this one worked out great, but I don't think its too bad:
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parkeshub
Joined: 28 Aug 2008 Posts: 310 Location: Fox World
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Posted: Fri Oct 17, 2008 5:51 pm Post subject: |
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Hmmm, not sure whether this one worked out great, but I don't think its too bad:
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Mate, that is sensational!!
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biqua Diamond Bollocks

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Posted: Fri Oct 17, 2008 7:33 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks Greg. Pete - I definitely rate that, but wonder if a touch more colour around the locos wouldn't just make it that little bit more model-like? Could just be my screen though - my attempts certainly look different between home and work screens.
I may be going for a gunzel on Monday, so will keep this subject in mind ... _________________ http://biqua.fotopic.net/
Little one, we love you though we never met you. Rest peacefully.
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parkeshub
Joined: 28 Aug 2008 Posts: 310 Location: Fox World
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Posted: Fri Oct 17, 2008 7:51 pm Post subject: |
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| biqua wrote: |
Thanks Greg. Pete - I definitely rate that, but wonder if a touch more colour around the locos wouldn't just make it that little bit more model-like? Could just be my screen though - my attempts certainly look different between home and work screens.
I may be going for a gunzel on Monday, so will keep this subject in mind ... |
Don't underestimate yourself, biqua. The Cooks one is a beauty....reminded me of home!!
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simont141

Joined: 07 Apr 2008 Posts: 318 Location: Adelaide
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Posted: Fri Oct 17, 2008 8:59 pm Post subject: |
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Pretty good technique. I'll try and find some suitable pics and give it a shot later tonight. _________________ Friends, Cunts, Romanrymen: Lend me your ears!
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409 Wannabe Bastard
Joined: 13 Jun 2007 Posts: 133 Location: I wish I knew that myself
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Posted: Sat Oct 18, 2008 2:30 pm Post subject: |
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| Petey3801 wrote: |
Hmmm, not sure whether this one worked out great, but I don't think its too bad:
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Just love the super detailing mate! I may have a shot at a few of my photos and see what I can fart out. _________________
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409 Wannabe Bastard
Joined: 13 Jun 2007 Posts: 133 Location: I wish I knew that myself
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Posted: Sat Oct 18, 2008 8:47 pm Post subject: |
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Here's my shit house effort. Because I don't have the full version of photoshop, I have had to improvise here and there.
For those who don't know, this was taken from Morphett Street Bridge just beyond the end of the platforms at Adelaide Railway station during afternoon peak back in April. _________________
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Benny Who told you this Bullshit??

Joined: 24 Jun 2007 Posts: 318
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Posted: Sun Oct 19, 2008 9:02 pm Post subject: |
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A word of advice on this technique?
Don't use photos with sharp shadows.
I've been using the 'tilt-shift' effect in Photoshop CS for quite a while now. Shadows in images really stuff up the whole effect.
Models are usually inside, and there is no harsh shadows cast by indoors lighting generally speaking.
Here's some of mine.
Lithgovia Loco.
Boat on the Harbour.
Bottom Points, ZZR.
Old Goods Crane, Katoomba.
Works on non-rail stuff too!
Leura Cascades.
Here's one with shadows, that doesn't work.
As you can see, the ones with shadows are not as effective.
Oh, and a second word of advice, overdo the saturation a bit. The colours 'block' up and look more like models.
That's my 5 cents worth. Now Stick that one up your arse!! _________________ No smart comment available.
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biqua Diamond Bollocks

Joined: 12 Jun 2007 Posts: 575
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Posted: Sun Oct 19, 2008 9:07 pm Post subject: |
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Geez Benny - show us all up why don't ya!
"Lithgovia Loco" and "Bottom Points, ZZR" in partuclar are fantastic and both look like N scale. Great stuff.
EDIT: Oh, and "Leura Cascades" you bastard.  _________________ http://biqua.fotopic.net/
Little one, we love you though we never met you. Rest peacefully.
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