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Somebody The Peanut Gallery
Joined: 12 Jun 2007 Posts: 304
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Posted: Fri Nov 14, 2008 11:36 pm Post subject: Overhead going from the goods lines? |
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Saw this rumour going around on another board about the goods lines in the metro area:
http://www.busaustralia.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=36136
Anybody know if there's any truth in this? If I can be selfish, it would make the metro goods lines a lot better for photography..
Having said that, could it be a bit short sighted? I can't imagine the 86s being used again tho.
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TheLoadedDog Site Admin

Joined: 11 Jun 2007 Posts: 2544 Location: Belmore, NSW
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Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2008 9:17 am Post subject: |
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Would be a shame.
Despite what they're saying in that link, I think the juice is available from Flemo all the way to about Canterbury. It's true though that nothing uses it - they don't even run empty V sets down there any longer. _________________ The idiot who, in railway carriages,
Scribbles on window-panes,
We only suffer
To ride on a buffer
In Parliamentary trains
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Adelaide_passenger

Joined: 20 Jun 2007 Posts: 305
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Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2008 9:54 am Post subject: |
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Extremely short sighted if they do rip it down.
In 20 years, when they're stringing the lines back up, they'll ask who's the moron who thought that'd be a good idea?
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Bwana

Joined: 23 Jul 2007 Posts: 1097 Location: about 1km south of EH23.15
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Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2008 4:53 am Post subject: |
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Funny you should specifically mention V sets Dawg, A few years back now there was trackwork affecting all lines between Illawarra Junction and Lidcombe, I travelled via Sydenham, Campsie, Enfield and Flemmo goods junction to Lidcombe on a Blue Mountains V set. OK, that might happen once or twice a decade, but it seems silly to go out of your way to make it impossible unless there is extra cost involved in leaving 'em up. _________________ It's Better to die on your feet than to live on your knees - Oils.
Check out my fotopic site: http://bwana.fotopic.net/
Or my newer stuff on Webshots: http://community.webshots.com/user/Bwanarail?vhost=community
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KRviator

Joined: 07 Apr 2008 Posts: 108 Location: Cab of a 90 Class
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Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2008 1:09 pm Post subject: |
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Last I heard (a year ago now) was RailCorp wanted to reclaim control of Enfield Yard to store some of their sparks in, as they're somewhat short of stabling faciilities elsewhere. They had blokes in measuring the track and overhead and all that other bollocks, but I dunno what came of it.
If the rumour is true, then obviously nothing, but I think they still need somewhere to store these hundred-odd new trains and Enfield will go some way to doing that... _________________ Comments made are strictly the opinion of the author and do not represent the opinons of Pacific National, the Australian Defence Farce or the Boy Scouts of Antartcia.
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Skraw The Voice of Reason

Joined: 14 Jun 2007 Posts: 873 Location: Hanging out the door of a rattler
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Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2008 1:30 pm Post subject: |
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Have the goods lines (used and disused) been looked at for passenger services? I know the tram/light rail uses the old goods line but what about the rest? Obviously not Botany but any of the others? By rights the tramline could go to Dulwich Hill but you'd want a bigger transport than that for the distance. _________________ 26 March 2011... can't come quick enough.
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biqua Diamond Bollocks

Joined: 12 Jun 2007 Posts: 575
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Well someone thinks light rail will do ok - there's a fair few posters on lampposts and the like in the area saying "Extend the light rail to Dulwich Hill". Maybe light rail would cover it as a sort of feeder to the main system (espcially if they put a decent link such as escalators up to Lewisham station to make it an interchange also) - my main issue with the current setup is it goes a fair distance but only feeds to Central. Even better if a new metro or heavy rail passes through Rozelle. _________________ http://biqua.fotopic.net/
Little one, we love you though we never met you. Rest peacefully.
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Raichase

Joined: 31 Aug 2007 Posts: 93 Location: Sydney NSW
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Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2008 7:05 pm Post subject: |
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From what I have been told, the crossovers between the Bankstown Line and the Metro Goods at Campsie are not going to be kept (I don't know if they will be ripped out, or just booked out), which is also rather short sighted, as it just takes away another operational aspect. Although, take that out, and take out the overhead, and one isn't much good without the other.
Does mean we won't see this again:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/raichase/2617997226/in/set-72157600267689726/
The Minno container shuttle ran via Bankstown due to congestion somewhere on the line between Sefton/Enfield and Campsie. It crossed over via the crossovers at the city end of Campsie station.
Will also make it harder for trackwork trains to get to and from worksites, at least on the Bankstown line anyway.... _________________ Insert generic signature line here.
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Georges Plains I must be bored to be here
Joined: 23 Jul 2007 Posts: 193 Location: 251.900km (Really, Bathurst)
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Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2008 10:17 pm Post subject: |
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Last I heard (a year ago now) was RailCorp wanted to reclaim control of Enfield Yard to store some of their sparks in, as they're somewhat short of stabling faciilities elsewhere. They had blokes in measuring the track and overhead and all that other bollocks, but I dunno what came of it.
If the rumour is true, then obviously nothing, but I think they still need somewhere to store these hundred-odd new trains and Enfield will go some way to doing that... |
The rumour I've heard, completely opposite that of yours, has upon completion of the SSFL, ARTC taking over all the Goods lines from Flemo Jct, and Meeks Rd to Campbo, which virtually means ownership from Flemo through to Dynon!
This would have the BM/MB freighters only dealing with FailCorpes between Broadmeadow and Flemington, and in another sense, all the heritage mobs, Thirlmeres, Canberras (...and even Cowras?) not dealing with RailCorp until they hit the points at Meeks Rd. I reckon RailCorp would have smiled at that one!
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Mickonthehill

Joined: 17 Jun 2008 Posts: 31 Location: 30.151
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Posted: Sun Nov 30, 2008 10:25 pm Post subject: Re: Overhead going from the goods lines? |
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Having said that, could it be a bit short sighted? I can't imagine the 86s being used again tho. |
Bit hard to be used again when they've all been scrapped - most short sighted decision ever.
Even the Kiwis can run electrics as bankers on the north island trunk, and they dont have the traffic density we have.
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CaseyJones

Joined: 13 Jun 2007 Posts: 28
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Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2008 12:18 pm Post subject: Re: Overhead going from the goods lines? |
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Having said that, could it be a bit short sighted? I can't imagine the 86s being used again tho. |
Bit hard to be used again when they've all been scrapped - most short sighted decision ever.
Even the Kiwis can run electrics as bankers on the north island trunk, and they dont have the traffic density we have. |
There's still a few around.
Apparently RailCorp is taking back possession of Enfield Yard, and there will be some changes to the roads in the yard as well as a new through road built.
Stick that one up your arse!
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unterseewagen Lithgovian Amphibious Transporter

Joined: 18 Jun 2007 Posts: 305 Location: up periscope
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Posted: Mon Dec 29, 2008 1:34 pm Post subject: |
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| Funny you should specifically mention V sets Dawg, A few years back now there was trackwork affecting all lines between Illawarra Junction and Lidcombe, I travelled via Sydenham, Campsie, Enfield and Flemmo goods junction to Lidcombe on a Blue Mountains V set. OK, that might happen once or twice a decade, but it seems silly to go out of your way to make it impossible unless there is extra cost involved in leaving 'em up. |
That reminds me of a similar V-set detour that I heard about - except this one was not caused by trackwurx but rather a signalbox clusterfuck (read: wrong-roading). The chrine in question was a coastie so of course the journey was the other way around, sort of. Around Flemo, past TLD-Post and through Enfield, Campsie and past the back of the XPT centre at Meeks Rd.
The train crew became belatedly aware, as they went through Eveleigh, that they were not descending into the Illawarra Dive; and by the time there was some (heated) communication happening, the chrine had already passed the PONR.
The chrine did eventually arrive at the gong/Dapto/Kiama/wherever - with a "scenic" detour that made it only 45min late
A journey that would not now be possible, especially around Meeks Rd; there is some catenary that has been outright removed already in the area. _________________ Situation Normal All Fucked Up Beyond All Recognition
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